the Degree Confluence Project

United States : New York

2.0 miles (3.3 km) SE of Galway, Saratoga, NY, USA
Approx. altitude: 222 m (728 ft)
([?] maps: Google MapQuest Multimap topo aerial world confnav)
Antipode: 43°S 106°E

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#2: Herald and a view west over the confluence. #3: Looking south from the confluence along the path. #4: Ada and a view north to the confluence. #5: (not at the confluence) The Marshall place

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  43°N 74°W (visit #1)  

#1: Looking south over the confluence to the road.

(visited by Ada Kerman and Herald Williams)

16-May-1998 -- We determined that the confluence was in Saratoga County, just north of a certain spot on Crane Rd. On the USGS topo maps we'd acquired for the visit, there seemed to be some small ponds quite close to the confluence that we planned to use as landmarks.

We found a pond that was just north of Crane Rd. and figured we were close. Herald parked the car by the side of the road, and we pored over the maps. It started to get confusing, since the pond seemed to be further south than any of the ones on the maps. There was a nice trail to the east of the pond that ran along it, and we walked up that to see if we could spot any other ponds that would help us verify where we were. The trail petered out near the northern end of the pond, and we couldn't tell for sure if there were any other ponds nearby in the woods (on the map, it looked like the ponds were strung out along a small stream). We turned around to go back to the car, and maybe measure the distance from the place where Crane Rd. took a sharp bend, to find the confluence that way.

As we came back, we noticed a man looking at our car. He saw us and we started talking when we got back to the road. At first, we were both a little nervous because we thought he might not want us trespassing. Also, he said he had wanted to make sure that we weren't some kids tearing around in the woods. Homer Neahr, as he introduced himself later, was quite friendly. When Herald said that we were looking for a degree confluence, and I explained that one was right near here, he was interested and looked at our maps with us. He identified a house marked on the map just a few hundred feet from the confluence as Marshall's place.

Homer said Marshall had made the nearby pond years ago - the area near the road had been basically swampland before that. That was why the ponds marked on the USGS maps (the most recent of which had been surveyed in 1970) were different than real life. After some discussion, we all decided the confluence was probably right in the pond.

Homer also told us some interesting stories about the neighborhood. Marshall's house used to be a general store in the 1840's. When he was putting in a bathroom, Marshall found an old ledger from the store in the wall. It had items like the one about the customer who traded three acres of land to pay off a 50 dollar debt. A copy of part of the book had been made by one of Marshall's relatives and given to the nearby historical society, in Galway.

The house just east of the pond belonged to Homer's daughter and son-in-law. After talking some more, we parted ways and went back along the trail by the pond to take pictures. We figured the confluence was about 200 feet north of Crane Rd. by the scale on the maps, and by what Alex told me a few weeks ago when looking at his Street Atlas program. Herald estimated the distance by drawing on his experiences with football fields back when he was in band.

As we left, we thought it would be interesting to find the historical society and look at that ledger book. We drove around Galway a little, but we couldn't find it so we left.

(Narrative by Ada Kerman, with assistance from Herald Williams)

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#1: Looking south over the confluence to the road.
#2: Herald and a view west over the confluence.
#3: Looking south from the confluence along the path.
#4: Ada and a view north to the confluence.
#5: (not at the confluence) The Marshall place
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Close to the lakeside of a small lake.